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Bobby “Boris” Pickett gave us the “Monster Mash,” in 1962, cowritten with Lenny Capizzi and The Rocky Horror Picture Show gave us “The Time Warp,” but now we have a new full-length album just in time for Halloween, “Funky Dracula,” courtesy of Ben Brow, from Austin, Texas.

Ben Brown talks about how he arrived in the studio with this collection of songs, “For some reason I was listening to a lot of ‘80s Prince music, so that was a sonic strand. At the same time, I revisited reading famous satire stories, like Orwell’s 1984, Voltaire’s Candide Ou l’Optimisme  and I have also been a fan of low brow horror movies, as well as science fiction. I like the idea of a horror movie that works as satire, and you don’t have to know anything about what the screenwriter was interested in to enjoy it. A lot of cheesy horror and science fiction movies function as cultural satire.

I am a product of the eighties and nineties, so Return of the Living Dead could be construed as a film about militarism. H.P. Lovecraft’s Reanimator could be construed as a story about what happens when you tinker with medicine, biology and genetic experimentation.

One day I had a bunch of material that had a spooky gothic sound to it. I thought it would be (interesting) to combine those songs and somehow the title Funky Dracula came to me. To me it represented the seductive synth Pop of the ‘80s Prince and the spooky gothic, romantic literature of Bram Stoker’s Dracula. The title was so bad that it was good.

Working again with my friend and producer Mick Flowers who owns the studio where I record, called The Shire (label Shire Recorders). I told Mick what I wanted to record and what I wanted it to sound like. I also told him that I wanted to call it Funky Dracula and he said you can’t call it that and that is when I knew I had to call it that.

I will add that my mother Linda Brown has encouraged me to make a holiday album. I pictured myself with a pipe, like Bing Crosby and I could never envision myself doing that. Afterwards I realized I actually do have a seasonal album, but it is for Halloween, not Christmas.

This album is really a satire. It is really a comedy. That is how I view it. I have no idea how listeners view it. I am using horror as a skin to satirize modern culture. I think of this album, almost like a film. If it was a film, the tag lines would be Nothing Is Scarier Than Modern life. I feel that encapsulates what I am trying to do.

When I was a young boy around the age of eleven, I was fascinated by horror. Some of the first books I read were Dracula and Frankenstein and comic books of that nature. I couldn’t get enough. This was pre-internet. Something about the darkness attracted me. It is a safe way to explore the darker side of life.

Ben Brown Funky Dracula ThreeThe horror that I always like was not slasher or gratuitous gore or violence. I liked things that were fantasy when I was young, things that took me outside of the facts of life. It is slightly ironic that I am using this vehicle now, this thing that is pure fantasy and I can be more honest than I can be with a serious album title.

There is a song on this album called “Reflector,” and it is a catalogue list of all of the things that in character I am saying an artist is not an advertiser, not a marketer, not a salesman, but a reflector. Art is communication and whatever the medium, the artist is trying to communicate some experience of life to people. I hope that people can see what I am trying to do when they listen to the album, but honestly it doesn’t matter. If you enjoy it for the sound of it and for the fun of it that is just as valuable to me. When I really vibe with art, whether it is a painting or a film I really like that it has layers that can be interpreted or that have a message. If you can appeal to those different audiences and people that are looking for that or you can appeal to people who aren’t looking for it, that is an achievement.

I don’t know how much of this was planned in the beginning, it sort of came together when I had this stockpile of material, and I compiled it into this specific project.”

The title of the song “Until the Dead Rise,” suggests a zombie like theme and one might interpret the direct hits modern society takes with the lyrics, that perhaps we are not far off. The song is worth listening to for the unbelievable electric guitar playing of Ben Brown.

When we ask about the counterculture aspect of this song and of others, in more of a pushback against what is happening in society, rather than in a revolutionary sense, Ben Brown says, “In that sense yes. I don’t know if it is a product of my age, but I don’t feel very connected with what is going on in modern music. Even here in Austin you can go to the bars, clubs and theaters and the music could be forty years old. There are bars in Austin and but for the cell phones in the room, you would think it was 1974 and you were in a Country bar. That can be a fun night out, but I follow my curiosity. The writing of the music comes from a mysterious place, and I would be surprised if a lot of artists didn’t say that to you. My process of writing is I just have to eliminate distractions and get quiet. Usually, I get ideas for songs that way. I hear them if I listen. Now I will say as a lyricist my music is always in the counterculture. It is always on the outside of the mainstream. I don’t dislike things, because they are popular. I don’t always understand why people like what they like, and I ask them. I have learned with age, rather than tell someone I don’t like something, I say why do you like it?

You never got to meet my brother Jeff who passed. He was a great mentor to me. We were partners, but I learned a lot from him as my older brother. We used lyrics as clearly defined targets for things in the culture that caught our attention and not necessarily in a positive way. I think most artists and whatever their motivating (factor) is whether it is ego or curiosity they are pushing against what they see in the culture. They are reflecting it, but also in the most cynical sounding lyric there is a glimmer of hope there towards another possible future. In that sense you could argue that it is counterculture. I have always been interested in characters that exist on the fringes and on the outside. “

In humble fashion when we comment on his stellar playing, Ben Brown responds, “I play all of the instruments except for the live drums. A few friends of mine have heard that solo and commented on it, so I guess I have to play more guitar in the future. (he chuckles) I don’t know what else to say. I guess more of that is in order.

My girlfriend would tell you that I have too many guitars, so I can’t lie about that. Any guitar to a non guitar playing person is too many. With that said, I consider myself to be a minimalist when it comes to gear and equipment. Don’t get me wrong I am thinking about my next purchase right now, but I like simple quality instruments that for the most part you can depend on in a live setting. I also play keyboards, as you know and when I play live I have too much equipment. Generally, I am a Fender guitar player. Years ago, I started with a Rickenbacker and then I moved on to Fender. I had a Stratocaster and a Telecaster, but now I play a (Fender) Johnny Marr signature Jaguar. That is what I played on most of the tracks on this album. At The Shire Mick Flowers has a collection of lovely guitars. On the song “When the Sun Goes Down,” I played a Les Paul, but that is rare for me. Usually, it is a Fender guitar and a Jaguar or a Telecaster.”

Before we continue with the songs tell me why you enjoy working with Mick Flowers and Erith Wenkman, your sound engineer.

“They are very different. Mick Flowers is sort of a mad genius. He is someone who walks into a room, shakes everything up, encourages you to dream bigger and then he gives you the freedom to go places where in other studios with other producers I have never had that luxury. He is a true collaborator as a producer, and I have a lot of trust in him that I have never had with anyone else. On King of Air (album) for example, I hadn’t even demoed the song yet and I would walk in and play the song on an acoustic guitar or on a piano and then Mick and I would listen to it, and we would build the song. We would start with him playing drums and I would play most of the other instruments unless we used horns, which I don’t play. I would play bass guitar and then I would play a synthesizer or a piano, acoustic guitar and then we would layer electric guitars, percussion, vocals, keyboards, harmonies or whatever it was. Mick is a true collaborator and someone who always encouraged me to go beyond where I thought I could go.

Erith has a skill set that is like magic to me, because I am not a (sound) engineer. I can play all of the instruments, but I can’t do what Erith does. There would be no album without Erith, who is very easy to work with and has golden ears, pristine ears. Erith knows everything and knows the relationship between the instruments and how to mix them. With Erith there is a certain amount of mysticism there, not only with the technological element, but there is a mysticism that brings the magic to the final product and to the process, “ Brown explains.

Our introduction to the song “Rules of the Game,” features a harpsichord or at least a keyboard emulating that sound.

“A lot of the songs for Funky Dracula were written on a keyboard. I have what is called a Juno DS61. It is not a wildly expensive keyboard, but it is the first keyboard I ever owned that was a decent enough quality that I could bring it to a gig. All of my life I was a singer, much of my life I was a guitar player and none of my life was I a keyboard player, certainly not in a live setting. I acquired this keyboard, and I could play chords and things like that. I was self-taught. I had never used a keyboard to write, I had always used a guitar. It is not a particularly good keyboard, so it gives it a certain character. On that song in particular there is a premade patch that lives in the computer, and it is called Amadeus, and it sounds like a cheap harpsichord mixed with synthetic strings. To my ear it is not a great sound, but something about the synthetic harpsichord spoke to me about this character Funky Dracula and I could picture this character playing the harpsichord. Ben Brown Funky Dracula Photo Four

In the music world there is a lot of snobbishness about the right recording technique and gear and those things matter, but for this particular project, we weren’t concerned with doing everything right, because it added to the overall cinematic texture.”

The lyrics for “When the Sun Goes Down,” are not exactly the kind you sit around the dinner table singing with grandma and grandpa, but after all this is album is a Halloween, mood altering experience. Ben Brown does not take the high ground and looking down on those types identified in the song, but rather questions the mores. Mick Flowers backstops this song playing drums and the beat, the groove, the rhythm gets into your head and long after “When the Sun Goes Down,” has stopped playing they will not leave your head.

“Rhythm played a big part on this album. Previously, I have tried to make sure the voice is the loudest instrument. I spend as much time on lyrics as I do anything else. I am trying to communicate ideas as much as anything else. On this album, I asked the mixing engineer to make the rhythm or the groove of the drums to be more present than anything,” he says, before adding, “I also have to give credit on that song to Mr. Marc Bolan, because that song is something of an homage to T.Rex (seventies Glam Rock band), who for me there was definitely some Dracula style going on in that group.”

As far as the song sequencing on the album is concerned it seems to our ears that the order starts with darker themes and becomes more romanticized as the album approaches the end.

Ben Brown considers our observation, “It is an interesting observation. That was a semi-conscious choice. When you sequence an album, there are all kinds of thoughts. Some people say we have to put the best songs in the beginning, because that is all people are going to listen to. I don’t work like that. I try to have a narrative that goes through,” and they sit well beside each other. They tell you without telling you where they belong. I sequenced the album myself, but previously Mick and I have sequenced albums two and three times, before we feel we got it right. On this album particularly we talked about sound and texture. There was a song that I wrote late in the game called Nothing Is What It Seems,” which is a pretty strong Prince homage, and it leans pretty heavily into that world. Prince was very inspirational for this album.

If you look into the character of Dracula and excuse me, we are about to get into very silly territory. I would like people to appreciate the album on several different levels. If you looked at it as a narrative with Dracula being the main character, he was (someone) who lost his soul. I really like Bram Stoker’s Dracula. That is a strong text for me as far as it goes. It is sort of elevated, If you have ever read it, there are a lot of journal entries and some of it is a bit plodding. It is a Victorian era novel, and it is a little dated to read now. (As for) the character of Dracula, he renounces god, and he loses his soul when his love is taken from him. I feel like everyone can relate to that, not losing your soul literally, but losing someone and throwing your life away. That is a very relatable feeling.

I am mixing metaphors and Dracula narratives. That is what we do on the album. He loses his love. He renounces god and he becomes damned and a demon. The original idea I had for the album is Dracula is undead. He is cursed to live forever and now he has to live through the modern age, and he is bored. That was the idea that got me laughing in the process of recording it. What would Dracula be like now having to live through TikTok culture for example, when everything in our culture is commodified and everyone is a salesperson, who all day long is selling their lives on their phones.

The album does end on a hopeful note, where there is a two-song suite if you want to call it that with “Nothing is What It Seems,” a song about loss and trying to come to terms with loss. Then there is a short song that almost feels out of place called “Do You Still Love Me?” The lyric is a laundry list of things that happen to a person over the course of a lifetime or in the case of this character over many years. Also, it could be seen as what happens when culture moves forward when values change, and the character asks over and over again “Do You Still Love Me?” All of the cultural changes that we are going through right now that to me are ephemeral and throw away people, are still just trying to find love. They want to be loved. If that is a hopeful ending, I will let you be the judge, sonically the album is a nighttime album, but that song to me sounds like the sun is just starting to come up.

I hope this doesn’t sound too dark, but I think we are living in a dystopian (time) now. I think it can be improved upon, but I think we are living in a dystopia, but I just think nobody can tell that.

I have to think there is hope. I don’t think any of us could live in a world when we can’t make a difference, but things don’t look too promising at the moment. As an artist there certainly is a lot of material to explore.”

You can listen to and buy Ben Brown’s Funky Dracula here.  

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