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Free Whenever Psychedelic Music Gurus from NYC![]() |
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Free Whenever comprised of bassist Trevor LaVecchia, Neil Gulieria and
drummer and percussionist Brendan Steuart plays a style of music more
defined by their name than any specific genre as improvisation is the
most significant element. For this listener it is as though Moby and the
legendary Rock band Cream got together to jam and Enya were her ethereal
music dropped by and joined in. Recently, New York City natives,
Gulieria and LaVecchia sat down for a Zoom conversation with Riveting
Riffs Magazine.
Referring to our characterization of their music, LaVecchia says, “I
think that is a pretty good description. We like to use the words
psychedelic groove. It is an umbrella term and what we do is very
eclectic. We just love music.
We definitely have the psych Rock influence for sure but sprinkled in
with many different textures and moods that we are trying to evoke. We
want it to be a journey, so dynamics are very important to us.”
Gulieria picks up the conversation at this point, “I tend to gravitate
towards the psychedelic thing too, because it is not a genre and for us
it is more of a mission statement. It is evoking those types of
experiences for the listener, the people in the audience. It has less to
do with genre and more to do with the attitude you have towards making
music.”
Both men acknowledge that a challenge for them was learning how to take
that free flowing improvisational style and giving it some more
structure for the studio recording, while not losing their love for
improvising.
“We are very much players who like to improvise and to see where that
takes us. We don’t like to cut that process short. Naturally that is
what Trevor and I gravitate towards. When Trevor and I first started
making music that was all happening as part of our recording process. It
wasn’t necessarily us as that live band that we are today sitting and
doing an improve. It was the two of us as a process of recording music.
Even when we would multitrack stuff and add multiple layers with us
being a duo, even that is like an improvisational process. It takes you
on this long journey. What if this part here just stayed and extended
out (he motions with his hands like a chef with a great recipe)
and ended up on some kind of other thing. That would take us to songs
that couldn’t get under the fifteen-minute mark. Some of our earlier
works represent that. Since then, it has been a process of learning how
to challenge ourselves as songwriters and take those elements and bring
them into things that are a little more concise and short form,” says
Neil Gulieria.
Trevor LaVecchia continues, “We couldn’t make something that was
(shorter) because it goes back to what Neil was saying (he is smiling),
because it is about embracing the unknown. As we discussed a second ago,
we like all of this different music and we heard certain bands like
Surprise Chef (from Melbourne, Australia), an Australian band. They
turned us onto something and that is when we started homing in.
We wondered with this being a time when artists are not simply bound by
the groove of a vinyl record if that creates more room for Free Whenever
to play the longer songs that they are known for.
Gulieria enthuses “Yes, absolutely, right? It definitely allows us to do
things that otherwise would not have been possible. We do have works out
there that definitely do transcend the length of a typical LP or
cassettes or stuff like that (Trevor interjects) We had to learn the
hard way; we made a vinyl. (Neil adds) you only have a finite amount of
time.”
Gulieria continues, “Absolutely that is the case and we tried to use
that to our advantage, so we didn’t have to conform to any set standards
of how to make music, how to package it and how we love to let it be
free.
We still use the modern ways of listening to music to challenge
ourselves to try to accomplish those goals and I think that has made us
better songwriters. We still have our natural tendencies to want to be
expansive and go off and be experimental, but I do think there is value
in how to condense things down and to get to the core of a musical
idea.”
LaVecchia explains, “I don’t think we have ever felt boxed in or oh this
is what we have to make. With the advent of the internet whatever shows
up in their feed it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t have to be on the radio
or something. We never come in with this we have to do a certain form,
but it is something we always wanted to do to write well- written songs.
We are definitely in the Pink Floyd vein. We are so into that. I think
we are coming back to that after all of these years.
If you listen to Jam Junkies Volumes One and Two those are just on
YouTube and some of them got 50,000 views. Then we thought oh we do have
something here. We just put out something we made on the spot. People
like to listen to it and we love to listen to it. It has allowed us to
see how much potential there is.
It’s funny though sometimes I feel we get boxed in on the internet. It
is a different form of boxing in than it was before.” “I agree. It is tough after the experience of long form music, in a world where you only have a few seconds to get someone’s attention. That is why we love the live thing, because you get everyone in a room together and they are forced to sit there and feel the entire experience and they think oh wow it is so much more enriching than just a five second thing,” says Gulieria.
As for their musical influences, Neil Gulieria says, “There is what we
listened to growing up and then what we listen to today. That continues
to change. I grew up listening to all the good classic Rock of all
kinds, like Psych Rock. I didn’t really get into learning about other
genres until I was in my teens. Then I started learning a little bit
more about things like Hip-Hop and Electronica. Especially the
electronic stuff I got very much into.
I started on drums
and I did the two (guitar also) together as a kid. Drums are a huge part
of my foundation. Again, there are drums in all kinds of music. I would
say in my twenties it has been a much more expansive process where
friends like Trevor and other friends have turned me onto whole new
genres of music. I didn’t know anything about Jazz; I didn’t know
anything about music from other cultures. In the last ten or so years it
has been much more expansive.
That took me down for having a passionate interest for a lot of African
percussion music, Afro Caribbean percussion music in recent years.
One thing I actually like about the way I play (guitar) is I have a lot
of different influences. I like almost electronic sound scapy stuff. I
like going in the totally opposite direction and being a straight rhythm
player and when the time is right, I like being a lead player, so I try
to take all of those influences when I play my instrument.”
As we continue to discuss musical influences, Trevor LaVecchia says,
“Brendan our drummer is not with us (in the interview) but as a
collective we all like Dub and Reggae music in general.
Reggae is a vibe, it is a mood and it is what we do as well, especially
as improvisational players. It really allows you to explore space and
not be pulled in by technique or these other things that I think a lot
of genres prioritize.
“As
instrumentalists it is tempting to stick to our very hard fast way of
thinking about playing the instrument, the talent and skill and
technicality of it. To take a total backseat and to focus on the
listener I feel that is what some of those other genres teach. If you
are playing Dub Reggae, think about it as though you are the listener or
the producer. We were working on it the other day and Trevor was working
on some bassline stuff and (we thought to) ourselves what would the
listener want to feel? Think about what the producer would do, not the
player in us,” says
Gulieria.
Trevor moves in slightly different direction, “When Brendan came into
the fold, he is just a gifted player. It is really hard to find someone
who cares about that music and the rhythm of it.” “We had cycled through a number of different drummers and many of them, all of them, frankly, were very talented drummers. Then when we got Brendan.
I played the drums on the first records and I would like to think I was
pretty good on the drums, but it wasn’t the style we needed to tie it
together. It was very Rock style. Brendan has a very nuanced approach to
playing the drums. Our playing I feel loops in multiple genres. I can
hear when Brendan is playing the drums versus somebody else. He has a
light touch. He really knows how to keep things rock steady,” says
Gulieria.
LaVecchia jumps in, “He plays like a writer. As a player you are always
trying to balance what you are trying to do versus the collective. It is
inspiring to have someone go nope we are going to this place. It is
conversational.”
“I just want to (add) one little dot on the end point, I remember when
we first started hanging out with Brendan. His first few times hanging
out with us he would come to our performances and just watch us play. He
was never like let me get in there and jam with you guys. He is not a
guy who pushes playing as the most critical thing. He is very much an
appreciator of music in whatever form it comes,” Gulieria recalls.
“I know one of his influences is a band like Queens of the Stone Age. We
are all such a mix, Jimi Hendrix, Folk music, Frank Zappa, Miles Davis.
Now Neil got me into electronic,” explains LaVecchia.
There is a quiet
confidence that one senses from Neil
Gulieria
and Trevor
LaVecchia, not a bravado, but a sense that they feel like with their
music they are where they are supposed to be and doing what they are
supposed to be doing at this moment in time.
Gulieria looks at me and says, “That is perfectly put. You must be
sitting in on the phone calls between Trevor and me. You are one hundred
percent right. We started off this band following the music and the love
of the music. We faced opposition because of the unique way we were
approaching music on so many levels. Always I felt like we were the runt
of the gang or (one of) tons of other New York City bands. In the early
days not a lot of people took us very seriously. Since that time, we
have taken the thing that we have always believed in and we have homed
in and done really nice things with it. We have focused on the exercise
of being better musicians. We have a lot of people that give us praise
for the type of music that we make. It always warms our hearts, because
the music we make always comes from a very pure place. For us to have
that kind of validation to make the kind of music we want to make and
knowing that other people want to listen to it is something we have been
waiting for.”
“It goes back to Jimi Hendrix. I always say we are turning people on. It
doesn’t matter if you stick to a form or how a band should be. The proof
is in the pudding. Even when we played early (in our careers) people
were just (Trevor LaVeccchia opens his mouth as in awe). That is
all you need. If you have that I feel that everything else comes with
it.”
Neil
Gulieria
shares a special moment, “We just shipped the pre-order of the record
Ascension the other day. We were sitting there boxing up records for
an entire day. I was thinking I can’t believe that all of these people
paid their hard-earned money for a record they are going to have
forever, hopefully and that is a super meaningful thing to us. Just
hearing the love and the appreciation of people and hearing the comments
and people reaching out to us through email has been really, really
good. We are on the right path, I think.
That is the other point of validation that has been happening more and
more recently, as we have been playing in other places, not just New
York City and seeing that there are people in these other cities and
towns that have been listening to our music for years. A lot of people
will say things like this EP that you put out, Open Air got me
through a rough period in my life. Wow I never even considered that, but
when I think about the music that I loved during tougher times or great
times in my life, that’s the value as to how it maps to our individual
lives. To feel that our music isn’t just notes and chords, but it is
that for another person it is a warm feeling.
Trevor knows I am a big foodie, when I think about food on an emotional
level I think of that exact thing (Trevor smiles). Nobody is going to
replace that meal that your mom would make on Sunday evenings or
something like that. It takes you right back to that specific moment in
time. What is more powerful than that? It is like time travel. We are
total believers in that and it is a foundational source.”
“It is like a vibe and an energy. You listen and then go away, but when
people buy the vinyl, it is like them saying it is something I am going
to come back to at different periods of my life. For me a good example
of that is when I hear somebody like Led Zeppelin. As a kid you are
blown away and then it goes away. When I stop listening for a few years
and then I come back it is like it has an energy,” says LaVecchia.
“I feel like music itself is a synesthetic experience. All of your
senses are getting tied together. You are hearing, but for some reason
once you make noise into music and they become notes, melodies and
chords you feel it with your whole body and all of your emotions.
Because of that multi-sensory experience, I think it has a unique
ability to get right to the core of your being, your memories and all of
this good stuff,” says Gulieria.
Continuing he says, “It comes back to our origins story, because like I
said we were both out making music on our own, before we started making
music together. I think what has made our songwriting very strong and
dynamic is we both realize in our songwriting capabilities there are
gaps and we have learned to fill the gaps of each other in that way. I
can add to Trevor’s way of making music and he adds to my way of making
music. He is much more (likely) to push us into different territory and
I am more (singular focused). It is very complimentary when we make
music that way. Brendan is the person that just circles everything
altogether.”
“He (Brendan) is the glue. It is a conversational thing. Even as much as
artists we are trying to organize this chaos and we have an idea of what
the true reality of what it is. It needs to be something that we can’t
conceive of. We just need to let it happen. Everyone is so important.
We are just very passionate people and we like to create in serene
environments.
It is such a communal experience. I feel that we really tap into
something in this whole scene and the music we listen to in general.
People are so obsessed with making people stars. Really what we are
trying to do is to turn people on,” says Trevor LaVecchia.
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