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Rachael Sage 2024 Interview Photo TwoIt has been quite a spring for American singer, songwriter and musician Rachael Sage, as she opened on a tour in the U.K. for Scottish legendary singer with the mononymous name Lulu. Rachael Sage also released her album Another Side, a collection of reimagined songs, previously recorded and this time with new arrangements. One of our favorite guests at Riveting Riffs Magazine, she is always personable, reflects carefully before expressing her thoughts, she is transparent, and she knows herself pretty well.

Rachael Sage describes her U.K. tour as “a dream situation. It really was. I always admired the artist Lulu and her long, diverse and dynamic career and to be her support while playing so many beautiful theaters was just a treat. I was the support act for her whole farewell tour.

Everything was fantastic. She has such a loyal and enthusiastic audience. She took us through this incredible journey through the decades. It was her version of the Eras tour (editor’s note: For anyone who has been living off-planet that is a Taylor Swift reference). She had wonderful projections and artists with whom she collaborated. She went from David Bowie to Elton John. It was all over the map. It was the kind of revue you might expect from Bette Midler or Cher. There were songs from her early career and then all the way up to more recent albums. It was really fun and it kind of felt like it should end up being a Broadway show or something. It is sad that it was her farewell tour. She was on fire until the very end and I can’t even imagine that she is not going to tour anymore.

(She sang) “To Sir With Love,” and at the end everybody was on their feet. It was very, very poignant.

She told some interesting stories about how the same songs were not as popular in England as they were in America. Over there it was not the number one hit there, as it was over here, but she gave it, its due in the show.”

Rachael Sage helps us to understand better what she means about her songs for the album Another Side are reimagined. “Back in the day I might have just put in parenthesis acoustic, but I have seen a lot of artists whom I admire, ditch that for reimagined, when it is not that cut and dry. It is not just that we are muting all the electric guitars. These are songs that are a little more reflective of what I might do live and stripped back in some ways, but some of them are more chamber strings and maybe don’t have the drums. They really are top to bottom rearranged and that is why I used that term reimagined.

They are essentially more acoustic based arrangements. There are a variety of special guests whom I felt really fit the songs and the new arrangements. They had become a part of the fabric of my community, whether in upstate New York or along the tour that I have been doing throughout the year.

It was fun to deconstruct them and start fresh with the same material after living with it and performing it live for a year.”

Rachael Sage turns her attention to talking about one of those songs, “The Place Of Fun,” which opens with the somewhat melancholic lyrics, “I look into the abyss of your eyes / And I see the failure I’m afraid / To concede because it’s all my own…

She explains, “There was that dynamic during the lockdown (during the pandemic), whereas a collective society and an entire continent we were evaluating the things that we missed and things we couldn’t live without. There was this sense of loss and tension and anxiety.

As we were deeper into the experience and emerging from it, I think there was also a sense that we didn’t necessarily lose track of that inward reflection. We didn’t want to go back to exactly the way it was. I knew that applied to me, but pretty much everyone that I knew. You evaluated how you didn’t want to keep everything about the way it was, and you evaluated what wasn’t working. That is really what those lines allude to, that numbness and sense of being paralyzed. It was about just missing joy and connection. I think when we were all emerging from lockdown there was such a desperation to connect and to reconnect with loved ones. It isn’t entirely negative. It is more remembering and envisioning again what is important and what you do need in your life.”

The light dawns on us, it is about getting back to the place of fun, as encapsulated in the song title.

Creative people by their very nature tend to be more impacted by the world around them, so we asked Rachael Sage if this was true for her, relative to the COVID pandemic.

“I think it necessarily had to. Of course, it was a very long period of time and in some ways, it is still continuing. I have two close friends who (recently) tested positive for COVID, so they had to cancel a slew of commitments and social activities in their lives. I just heard about it. That is still going on and it isn’t absolutely over. I think we have just learned to live with it and to tolerate it.

I think there are some metaphors between the pandemic and chronic illness even on an individual level that are applicable, and I certainly felt that as a cancer survivor as we were at the height of the pandemic. In a weird and kind of surrealistic way I may be more prepared for this than some other people may be, because I have kind of gone through this personal trial and illness. I learned to let go of things and maybe it was uncomfortable to do that, but I had no choice and then I made peace with that.

The whole process of balancing self-awareness and community and all of it and reevaluating your entire life. It is not convenient, but sometimes you have no choice, but to do it. I think the pandemic forced virtually everyone to do that.

When we all came back to the city, I was in the middle to Times Square and I had an experience when I was looking at all of these enormous screens that advertise all kinds of stuff that didn’t matter and I wasn’t focusing on, but they were still automatically just doing it. There was not a soul in the streets walking around. It was haunting and just creepy.

I think in a lot of ways it applies to music and musicians and how we are reacting to the climate now. I know when I finally got some work again and got back to touring in England, a couple of years ago, which is a big market for me, I remember that feeling of sheer elation to just be altogether again, experiencing music and creativity. It was like, we did it. We survived the apocalypse type of feeling. I still feel that way. I hope I never lose that appreciation, although we tend to, and we need to reset and remind ourselves of our blessings as we move forward.”Rachael Sage 2024 Interview Photo Three

Back to the song “The Place Of Fun,” she says, “I wanted to redo all of them, because what happens is I am kind of a kitchen sink producer. I was raised on The Beatles and the idea that you use the studio as another instrument. It is not just you hit record and you are playing, in some sort of Elvis style, as what goes in is what you get. I have always loved to layer and layer and layer and to try a million different things. Perhaps sometimes I even overproduced. I enjoy the process so much.

I have a lot of people ask me at my shows, do you have anything that sounds more like what I am hearing tonight, whether it be myself, my violinist or a trio and percussion, things like that. I tend to perform more that way, because it is more about the intimacy and the storytelling and the lyrics. I like music like that as well. I love all of it. I love, Rock, I love Pop and I am also very much a Folk artist, (she chuckles) about half of the time.

It really was about stripping things back and having the song at the forefront. I guess it is (similar) to doing something in the workshop at a public theater versus it being on Broadway, with the analogy being that I did that in reverse. I started with the big extravaganza and now I am scaling it back, to just that intimacy, between the listener and the song itself.”

The song “Albatross,” was birthed in the heart of the pandemic and at a time when, and this would be an understatement, Rachael Sage was living in a very humbling dwelling outside of New York City.

She talks about that time in her life, “I think we were all in a panic and self-preservation mode, especially with New Yorkers where it was the epicentre of everything and there was an enormous amount of fear. I was on the road with Howard Jones, and we were in Pittsburgh when we got that edict that this will be the last show. Howard was going home, before he wouldn’t be able to get back to England. Good luck to everyone. Love you. See you soon.

I was in touch with my family and my sister who is a journalist said to me in no uncertain terms, don’t go back to the city. Stay out of the city and be prepared for wherever you are going to stay for two or three months. I thought she was insane, but she knew, because she was reading things that we weren’t reading. She had an aerial view of it all.

I thought I want to be near my best friend, and we wanted to be together. She is my tour manager, so we quickly looked for an Airbnb for me online and I found a place across the street from her. I was just up the stairs from a married couple who taught at Yale and their newborn baby. It was just a room, without a kitchen. It was pretty humble I suppose, but I wasn’t really thinking of it that way. I was thinking about how lucky I was to be with my friend, we could both leave our houses and meet in the backyard. We could walk together and commiserate and make each other laugh and get through this together.

That is where my head was at, and we certainly didn’t expect it to be six months. Airbnb turned into an actual lease and a rental, and I was there for quite a while. That was unanticipated, but I was safe and when it was time I sought other accommodations not too far away. All you need is one great friend to get you through any humungous crisis. That’s my belief.

I did experience quite a bit of isolation, but it was all relative. We could go for a walk, laugh, take videos of each other and put them up on YouTube. We were trying to be creative. I was so proud to be a part of the singer and songwriter community as well. We all figured out how to livestream and share music with our listeners and that was an enormous help.”

The song, “Forgive Me This,” a cover of Danielle Gerber (co-written with Julian Harris and Tina Shafer), is introduced by the luscious strings of violinist Kelly Halloran and Dave Eggar’s cello. Rachael Sage’s ethereal vocals whisper, “No I didn’t anticipate this / No it wasn’t supposed to end like this / But something inside holds on so deep so tight / I have to decide and give up this fight.” We would also be remiss if we did not mention the wonderful upright bassist, Conrad Korsch. In a collection of songs that pulls at your heartstrings, without being manipulative, this is the prettiest.

She says about the song, “I love everything about it. I love that it is courageous. I love that it is vulnerable, and I love the melody. Everything about it made me wish it was one of the songs that I had written. I think it can mean a lot of different things to the listener. I happen to personally know what it was written about from my friend Danielle Gerber. I don’t even like to tell people that I know what it is about. I think the title is brilliant. It could just be Forgive Me or it could be Forgive Me and then something specific, but Forgive Me This pulls you in. It makes you want to know about the person writing and singing the song.

I always loved Danielle Gerber’s version of it, and I never felt that it got the attention it deserved. It just stuck in my head from the very first time that I heard it. I always noodled on it on the piano. Ten years later I was playing it on a livestream and a lot of people asked me wow what was that? I explained it wasn’t my song, but hopefully I did justice to it. It is one of my favorites.”

The song “No Regrets,” has an interesting story behind it, “It is such a special situation, because my dad is now one of my best friends and I adore him. I didn’t really know him that well when I was growing up. He was a workaholic, and he would say the same, so you see where I get it from (light chuckle). He was a way a lot. He became ill during lockdown, and he developed lymphoma. My sister, my mother and I were all caregiving for him.

The silver lining of a terrible situation that we wouldn’t wish upon anyone is it brought us closer together. We spent an enormous amount of time together and as he was emerging from that illness he wrote an adorable poem on a scrap of paper. About 75% of the lyrics are his, the first verse, the chorus, the second verse and then I filled in a few blanks along the way. It was a recounting of the things that he loved, appreciated and maybe he missed doing, while he was sick. I thought I would surprise him, by turning it into a song. I did that for him, and I played it for him on his 80th birthday and during lockdown. It is a very special one for me. He loves it and we got to make a video together. That was fun and thankfully he is doing just fine now. It is a good ending to the story.”

Rachael, you collaborated with Mikhail Pivovarov, who engineered, mixed and mastered your record.

“He is a wonderful engineer. We just nailed it. He let me be me. He helped me to achieve and to amplify what I was going for. I feel like we have become good friends through the years. He is super talented. Everything he  records sounds crystalline and beautiful.

I think I am at a point in my life when it is just nice to feel comfortable with someone. You have each other’s backs, and you complete each other’s sentences That is how I like it in the studio now.

Again, during the lockdown I had a lot of time to reflect upon on how I really enjoy doing things. I like when it is just easy and comfortable,” she says.

We mused about Another Side, being a reflective album in many ways and we asked Rachael Sage about that, “Sure, I think the practice of writing songs is necessarily reflective, unless you are just trying to get a crowd of festivalgoers going with a banger chorus. If you are writing verses, you are telling a story and you are revealing something about yourself as an artist. There is a range there (concerning) how reflective we go. Even with songs when I am covering someone else’s material, I hope that the vocal production and trying to set a mood and some magic between the other musicians that there is a reflectiveness happening and capturing a moment in time, which is all a record is doing.”

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