Maia Sharp and Reckless Thoughts |
It is always great to sit down, (even if it is over the miles) and chat
with Maia Sharp. The renowned singer, songwriter and musician, whose
songs have been recorded by artists such as, Cher, Trisha Yearwood,
Terri Clark, Bonnie Raitt and Art Garfunkel, will have just released her
new album Reckless Thoughts by the time you are reading this.
Maia Sharp is as candid, as she is thoughtful when talking about her
life, career and songs. She breathes fresh air into the world of music.
She is comfortable collaborating with other songwriters and she is quick
to share the spotlight and credit with them, even though it is her name
on the album for which the songs appear.
From her home in Nashville (yes, she did indeed move from California a
few years ago), she talks about when the seeds for Reckless Thoughts
were first planted.
“The first song that I knew was going to be the beginning of a new album
project was “Kind.” I wrote that with Mindy Smith and Dean Fields in
2019. When we were finished with that one, I knew I needed to start
thinking about another project, even though Mercy Rising (the
previous album) wasn’t even out yet. I knew that one was already
finished. I knew that “Kind,” wasn’t going to be on Mercy Rising.
It already set the wheels in motion and I thought I guess I am going to
be making another record.
“Too Far Now,” was the next one. Those two songs are so different from
each other that they really presented a challenge. How am I going to
write or look through my catalogue for a body of work that makes sense,
so all of these songs can play together and sound like one animal. They
are the most different genre wise. I think my production, the vocals and
the lyric tone will be the thread through the songs. That is how it got
started, at least writing wise.
“Kind,”
and “Too Far Now,” were done first, knowing that I had to get them out,
I had to get them recorded, so I could start to find a tone for the next
album. Those were done at Camp Senia studios, which is the one that is
owned by the drummer and bass player who played on this record and on
Mercy Rising, Ross McReynolds and Will Honaker. They have this room that
is literally right up the street from me. I would go in there and just
take a day with them and start to get a feel for what I wanted “Kind,”
and “Too Far Now,” to sound like. I had those two songs pretty much
finished, before I knew what the rest of the songs on Reckless
Thoughts were going to be.
Let’s talk about “Kind,” a little more.
“As many of our co-writes start, we just sit down and start to catch up
on life and things that are going on that we have observed in the world.
When we wrote it in 2019 during the previous administration, we were all
in a pretty cranky mood and we felt like kindness was just not in style
anymore. People were doing things boldly and unapologetically that were
straight up unkind. With a faction of our society, it seemed to be okay
with them that this was happening. We were baffled and were asking what
was happening and why is this okay? We started writing a song about that
frustration and then realized we didn’t really (want to) come from the
negative. What if we flipped it and came from the positive side, like
the people we do want to hang with?
Dean had the line “My kind of people are kind people.” We started
writing it from the more celebratory perspective. If only kindness
matters then really all of these other things that seemed to be
controversial, such as race, sexual orientation, color, religion and
gender identification, that don’t matter at all to who a person is and
are nobody else’s business. How do we allude to those things, without
sounding, preachy, scolding or cliché. We just started looking for silly
things that could be about someone or a quirky trait someone has.
We wanted to point out that it doesn’t matter how quirky you are or how
different you are from me. If you are a kind person, we have a shot at
being friends. We did a deep dive and I am pretty sure Dean was
“Jalapeno peppers in your ice cream.”
I have been playing (the song) live for over a year and it always gets a
really good response. It always felt like a song that was not like my
other songs. It always felt like it was going to present a challenge to
build an album around a song that is so different from what I usually
do. That is kind of what the song is really saying, it is really
different and that is okay. It doesn’t make it scary. It is a nice song.
It is annoying to the point of being offensive that people feel it is
their job to judge these things about other people. What the (expletive)
do you care about who I love? What does that have to do with you at all?
We didn’t want to come from the WTF place. We wanted to say, you can be
all of these things that I am not. We can still have a chance at being
friends and if you are a good person, I can still love you.
Mindy had this one (line), “Get yourself stung saving honeybees.” (she
laughs heartily). (She also came up with), “Have your meat and 3 or your
chickpeas,” and Mindy is a vegetarian. (she laughs again) I added for
the rhyme “Call who you call, when you fall on your knees.” People who
judge each other on where they get their faith and their spirituality or
their lack thereof, is such a pet peeve for me. Who gives a…. (her voice
trails off) Why do you care who somebody looks to when they are having a
hard time or when they want to build a community? Whatever, do what you
gotta’ do? (more laughter) What does it matter?
That verse is such a good example of a successful co-write. We have
written a few other songs as a threesome, but the three of us were so in
the zone as a team. That verse is the perfect example, “You can part
your hair like a palm tree,” I am pretty sure that was Dean. The three
of us were woo we found it.
Once “Kind,” and “Two Far Now,” were finished, I went to Resister Studio
(Nashville) in November of 2022. We hit the ground running, because I
really kept my focus. It is the place where I tracked Mercy Rising
with Ross and Will. They, and now Josh (as well), are my all-star team
from the last album. I love those guys. Anytime I have a chance to work
with those guys I take it. The other eight songs were done at Resister,
in a batch, with the full intention that they would flesh out the album.
I took those songs back to my room (Crooked Crown Studio) and I did the
overdubs and the vocals. I tried to get everything mixed over the month
of January and had it ready to master and press in February, so it had a
chance in hell for the physical copies to be ready in time for the
Bonnie Raitt show that I thought I was opening on May 17th (the concert
was postponed). Once I had the show, I put my pedal to the metal to at
least get the CDs pressed. It is such a welcome thing to get any kind of
a deadline because I am the label, and I am an independent artist. If I
don’t have a date to work from it can just be too fluid. I need some
kind of pressure to start the ball rolling,” she says.
Maia Sharp then recalls the various deadlines she set for herself in
terms getting the record mixed, mastered, CDs pressed and then the vinyl
ready.
She explains, “My rate of production is so much higher and just as good,
when I have a lot of stuff in front of me. In fact, it gets kind of
squirrely and it gets off the rails a little bit if I only have one
thing (to concentrate on) and I know I have to have it done.”
One can easily envision concertgoers singing along to the chorus of the
song “Kind,” “My kind of people are kind people / My kind of people
are kind / If you got a good heart / That’s a good start / If you want
to be a friend of mine….” It is also easy to imagine that artists
from several genres of music will want to adapt this song to fit their
style. It is one of those rare songs that is comprised of fun lyrics
with a serious message.
The song “Old Dreams,” written with Garrison Starr, is a reflective
song. It is about who you once were, who you are now, and who you are
becoming.
Maia Sharp says, “Old Dreams,” hits me right in the gut. I am absolutely
living that one. I think it is a great example of the perspective I
found for this album, because Mercy Rising was so obvious to me what I
was going to write about. I had just had all of these changes in my life
and I moved from California where I thought I was going to live forever.
I left my marriage of twenty-one years where I thought I was going to
stay forever. I had another quick and serious heartbreak right after my
marriage. I had never lived alone until then. There were so many
changes, challenges and reconstruction and I had to get these songs out.
After Mercy Rising and when things settled in a little more, I
was not in a tailspin, I felt calmer and stronger, I thought now what
can I write about that is still real, it is still true to life, but it
is also interesting? I didn’t have the drama anymore in my life, so what
was it? What was the perspective? “Old Dreams,” is a good example of
that perspective that I found. I am learning to let the dream and the
things that I really want to grow with me. I have learned so much. I am
not twenty-five anymore. I have seen a lot and experienced a lot of
things, particularly career wise, so why wouldn’t I let those things
that I have learned inform, what I want now? They are important to me
now.
A few of those things didn’t happen. Cooler things happened, things that
I couldn’t have known that I wanted. I didn’t know enough yet to know
what was really important. Now that I do, the things that are really
important are happening. I just have to remind myself, what do I really
want now? Do you have that and are you close to that and the answer is
usually yes.
If when I am fifty, I am still responding to something the same way as I
did when I was in my mid-twenties, I have to look at that, because that
is not accurate anymore.
The answer has absolutely changed. I am very close to what I actually
want.”
As for the collaborative songwriting for the song, “Old Dreams,” she
says, “My friend Garrison Starr had been at a writing session somewhere
else. I had a writing session here and she just came back from the
writing session and she was staying with me. We were out on the deck
having our wine and I think I was having a cigar. We just started to
talk about our day and life and this idea came up about beware of the
default. Life is actually better than the default makes it seem
sometimes. We were going to relax and just wind down, but in spite of
ourselves we started to write some lines. She did this with another song
of ours too that is on her album. She said sorry, but we have to go
downstairs and write this thing. I remember going ahh, I just wanted to
relax and finish my wine. You are right damnit and we went downstairs
and we wrote it,” and she adds about the lyrics, “It is so true and I
need to remind myself that things are really good and things are better
than the default is telling you.”
We take a few moments to talk about some of the other people who appear
on Reckless Thoughts, “Ross McReynolds is playing drums on
everything. I did get on the drum set for “Everything You Need,” but you
will hear how simple that is. (she chuckles) Will Honaker is our bass
player, Joshua Grange is electric guitars, steel, synthesizers. He
engineered the tracking session as well.
I got The Accidentals and Kitty Larson (strings) and they
are so talented. We have written together a bunch and they recorded some
of our songs that we wrote together. We have toured together. To me it
felt like to me on the spot, The Accidentals would arrange the
strings section of my song, as we are playing it live. It blew me away.
I almost forgot the lyrics. What is even happening right now? I had a
cello and violin playing with me perfectly. They just do their homework
and they take it very seriously. They are monster players. I had them
play “California.”
My friend Vanessa Freebairn-Smith who is a top-shelf cello player in Los
Angeles, she played on “A Good Day.”
Shelly Fairchild sang high harmony for me on a couple of songs. She is
on “Old Dreams,” “She’ll Let Herself Out,” and “Hell & Back.” Emily West
is also singing on “Hell & Back.” It
is a song about women singing, so I wanted to get at least three other
women singers who weren’t me, so you can tell there are different voices
on there. I got Shelly, Emily and Wendy Moten.
Peter Groenwald, who is one of my co-writers, is on “California,” which
was written by Peter, Garrison and me, he played piano for that one. He
has a duo called Hush Kids, which is really cool.
Mindy Smith is singing the high harmony on “Kind.”
I haven’t played saxophone on my own album for a really long time. The
saxophone was my first instrument and I used to make sure I played it on
one or two songs per album. I didn’t do it on Mercy Rising, but I
wanted to bust that out again. “Too Far Now,” has a chord progression
that felt like it was a good palette for sax, so I played sax on it.
Hopefully that will be received well. That is why it felt different from
“Kind,” which is straight up Americana.
“On
(the song) “Hell & Back,” I really wanted to have live percussion, not
just samples and not just shaker and tambourine, but accurate African
style percussion. I called a guy I had worked with years ago on the Art
Garfunkel project, a percussionist here in town named Eric Darken. He
tours a lot, but he just happened to be in town. I cornered him and I
got him to play for “Hell & Back,” and once I had him, I was oh my god,
what else can I have him play on? He is so good and so creative and so
in the pocket. His groove is deep and exactly the way that I want to
hear a groove. It was so fun to play with him. He is also on “Fallen
Angel,” and it is just a real extra moment. He will know when to answer
what the other instruments are doing and when to support them. His sense
of that is right on the money. He is also on “She’ll Let Herself Out.”
Maia Sharp may not have found drama to propel the inspiration for
Reckless Thoughts, like she did her previous album Mercy Rising, but she
create a fine collection of songs that have deep personal meaning for
her. A case in point is “On A Good Day,” a song that is both vulnerable
and raw.
It is (about being) in the process of getting through it and
appreciating that you are slowly having more good days than bad, but
also accepting that they are going to move in steady, slow rotation.
Some days are going to be good and some not so good. That is just a part
of the process. I like the calm accepting perspective of it. It has no
drama in it at all.
Kim Richey’s language compared to mine is tempered in a way and it was
perfect for this song. We found the voice for our character. I don’t
know how much she relates to our character, but I definitely do.
When asked if “Gone Cryin’,” is juxtaposed to “On A Good Day,” she says,
“I think this can be the same person and also be like you know what I
gotta’ go and let it out.
I wrote “Gone Cryin,” with Elizabeth Elkins and that was in the heart of
the lockdown. It was right after John Prine passed away. I remember
thinking and saying let’s do our best to try and write something in the
style of John Prine.
At that point in the lockdown, it was at the height of scariness. It was
pre-vaccine and the news was not good. We were all in isolation and I
was pretty fresh to Nashville. I was in need of socializing and
continuing to build a community here. I was trying to let people know I
live here now and I couldn’t do any of those things. It was a mind
screw. It was really challenging and all of us were dealing with that. I
don’t think I am alone in that feeling. This was after I had Covid in
March 2020 and it was brutal. I woke up with it the day that the U.S.
realized Covid was here and it was real. They announced that we had a
pandemic. I felt bad and then I felt worse and worse and worse. It
(became) pneumonia and then it was really scary. I made it through that
and then I thought WTF, I am (here) to get a fresh start and this is how
it kicks off. I was in a very high anxiety place. I was trying to stay
positive and optimistic.
Elizabeth and I had written together before and we are friends. Both of
us were very mindful of exposure and not being out in public. She was in
full isolation and I was in full isolation. We did know people who wrote
together in person the whole time, but we wrote that entire song over
Zoom.
We had to get it all out. I was letting myself be a mess and I was. This
was also during the time that I learned how to bake sourdough bread and
I planted a garden. I learned another language. I read forty books.
People were talking about how productive they were with our down time
and I was more in a battle for my own optimism. Finally, I just let
myself have a really shitty day. I was talking to Elizabeth about that
and she was having the same experience. I said, let’s own it, I am going
to cry. Right now, I am just going to let it out, because that is how I
am going to get on the other side of this feeling. I had an image in my
mind of somebody in a little store, with a sign hanging on a nail and
they flipped over the sign. Instead of it saying Gone Fishing, it says
Gone Cryin’. I brought that image up to Elizabeth and she was oh ya’
let’s write that.
Other songs on the album that you will want to check out include
“California,” “Too Far Now,” and “Everything You Need.”
About the latter song, written with Madi Diaz and Anna Schulze in 2019
she says, “I didn’t really think about it for a long time. I think that
was the last song I chose to go on the album. It is about somebody who
is in a good relationship and who is so in love that they can’t help but
be worried that they are going to lose it. It is a struggle for optimism
even when life is going well. You know you should be celebrating this
and why aren’t you just swept away by the joy of it? There is this
little hurt place that just won’t let yourself be swept away. (You
think) this person could wreck me.
I am not in that situation right now, but I love this song so much, I
wanted to take a swing at it.”
As for the title of the album Reckless Thoughts, Maia Sharp
explains, “That is a line out of California, “Reckless thoughts and
broken hearts collide.” I looked all through the lyrics for all of the
songs for a potential title. I like Reckless Thoughts, because
you can take it either way, to be a good thing or a bad thing. Reckless
thoughts can get you in trouble, but also there is something about songs
to me that are reckless thoughts. You let yourself go off the rails. You
let your mind wander. You allow it to go to unexpected places. Sometimes
the reckless thought is when we do the song that needed to be sung.
I am always drawn to the thing that has two sides to it and reckless
thoughts to me feels like it does. It can be a dangerous thing or it can
be the way that you break out of a rut.”
Please visit the website for Maia Sharp
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You can read our 2021 interview with Maia Sharp concerning her Mercy
Rising album
here.
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